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Sep 25, 2005, 07:08 PM // 19:08
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Sep 2005
Guild: Dark Ninja Alliance [DNA]
Profession: W/Mo
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W/n Sword Build!!
Okay I would like some help with my Warrior/Necro.
I have: Blood Magic 9 Strength 11+1+1 Swordmanship 9 My Skill Bar is Usually like this: http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/1...gnetcap8iy.png Life Siphon, Demonic Flesh, Vamparic Gaze, Signet of Capture, Sprint, Final Thrust, Severe Artery, Gash. or http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/1...withrez0dw.png Life Siphon, Demonic Flesh, Vamparic Gaze, Ressurection Signet, Sprint, Final Thrust, Severe Artery, Gash. The weapons I use are: http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/4...dshield6jw.png Fiery Dragon Sword Of Fortitude Fire Damage: 15-22 (req. 8 Swordsmanship) Damage +13% (vs. hexed foes) Health +28 Shadow Shield Armor: 16 (req. 13 Strength) Health +13 (while in stance) Okay. this build Sucks. I need some help with some stratageys. I usually run to a foe use life siphon then start cutting him up. Then i use severe artery, then gash and if i need health i use vamparic gaze. If he's still not dead i use Final thrust. If you have any sugestions please tell me. My in game name is Rankyr Bloodfist (my W/N20) or Arwin of Rohan (R/N6). 
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Sep 25, 2005, 07:13 PM // 19:13
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jul 2005
Profession: Rt/N
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Use well of blood not vampiric gaze for healing.
Get well of power asap. Lose sprint its worthless unless your running to places. Also your a warrior so never take res signet :P Get the best armour you can....and a shield with -dmg. |
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Sep 25, 2005, 08:03 PM // 20:03
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Rawr.
Join Date: Apr 2005
Guild: Read or Die Stooge Forum
Profession: W/
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Capture the skill "Victory is mine!" as soon as you can. Also invest in Plague Touch.
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Sep 25, 2005, 08:57 PM // 20:57
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Pre-Searing Cadet
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Erm is this PvP or PvE? I would assume PvP, but then the responses would be kind of odd......
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Sep 25, 2005, 09:00 PM // 21:00
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jul 2005
Profession: Rt/N
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Probably pvp, but it isnt stated in his post.
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Sep 26, 2005, 03:38 AM // 03:38
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Chicago, IL
Profession: W/N
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I'd post something here but due to inefficiency issues, I"d rather not... In general, a warrior should bring frenzy+sprint and maybe res sig in pvp Bonetti's Defense, and maybe Hundred Blades in pve [why 100 blades? cause it hits lots of enemies to keep their attention on you] |
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Sep 26, 2005, 03:41 AM // 03:41
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Campbell, California
Guild: Legio Imortalii
Profession: W/Mo
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RANKY BLOODFIST. Hey there, didn't see you on today.
 It's not bad. I would only suggest bringing sprint if you want to make a kill faster if they are running away in a random arena. I agree with a 100 blades. edit: btw, how's the farming goin for yah? |
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Sep 26, 2005, 03:43 AM // 03:43
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Aug 2005
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Sep 26, 2005, 04:00 AM // 04:00
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Campbell, California
Guild: Legio Imortalii
Profession: W/Mo
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Sep 26, 2005, 07:25 PM // 19:25
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Sep 2005
Guild: PHX/Phoenixorder
Profession: E/Mo
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forget sprint. use hamstring to keep ppl from running,warriors cunning for those who usr defences and for me draining isnt enough.i use endure pain and defy pain brings u above 1000hp and if u use frenzy after warriors cunning your defy pain will charge before it runs out. vampiric gaze is also great for those who run from u while hamsting is charging.
my skill listing as follows: hamstring warriors cunning frenzy final thrust endure pain defy pain vampiric gaze vampiric touch side bar: plague touch healing signet(if u lack a good healer) |
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Sep 27, 2005, 12:33 AM // 00:33
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Apr 2005
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Sprint is more tactically useful than Hamstring.
Endure Pain and Defy Pain both suck. You have ONE attack skill that is CONDITIONAL. That build will have massive energy issues. 6 energy skills? At least 4 of which cost 10? You can't support that at high effectiveness with a warrior. The original poster's build owns yours. Pretty much the base for a sword warrior is Savage Slash, Galrath, and Final Thrust. Build around that and try to move away from the life stealing stuff Necro gives. Sure, it does damage, but another Sword skill is at least that much damage, and that's also why monks exist. Use them. Savage Slash Galrath Final Thrust Hundred Blades (maybe) Frenzy Sprint Something Res Sig. |
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Sep 27, 2005, 06:21 PM // 18:21
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Sep 2005
Guild: PHX/Phoenixorder
Profession: E/Mo
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i never have a problem with energy. its how you use it that matters.endure and defy pain are my main to skills. u get the enemy down to less then half there life then slap them with final thrust,with a drain skill and they always die. forget a rez sig. its useless and never used.if u are the last 1 standing on your team that usually means your about to die! save that space for atleast a healing signet that doesnt require energy.
ps. i would own the origanal build the hacking and slashing would only drain from my boosted hit points
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Sep 27, 2005, 07:11 PM // 19:11
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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Sep 27, 2005, 08:38 PM // 20:38
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: May 2005
Location: good from far, far from good
Guild: Gaming Continuum
Profession: Mo/Me
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It's common logic amongst exerienced players that bringing defensive and healing skills, as a warrior primary, into PVP is a waste, as you will almost exclusively be attacked last, at which point defense and healing doesn't mater. Which is why some, myself included, are questioning the worth of bringing skills like defy pain or endure pain. It's immaterial whether you have 480 health or 880, and I would argue a complete waste of valuable skill slots.
No non-monk primary should EVER enter PVP without rez sig. Period. Particularly as a warrior. As a warrior/necro, plague touch should also be a must-have skill. There are huge benefits, and no drawbacks to carrying it. I would also say that both frenzy and sprint are among the must-haves for pvp warriors. The only time I would be tempted to not bring frenzy was if I was running a tactics oriented build and increased attack speed was not an issue. Assuming a damage-centric, or even adrenal build however, frenzy is required, and coupled with the above noted logic that defense is not a concern, the downside to frenzy is operationally negated. So with sprint, plague touch, frenzy, and rez sig you now have 4 slots to fill. To actually be an optimum damage warrior, I would suggest a switch to axes. However for swords, the savage/galrath/final combo makes the most of the sword based damage chains, leaving you with an elite slot to fill. Bulls Charge is very useful, and as a condition-dealing swordsman, VIM is also worthwhile. Of course, for PVE, defensive and self-healing skills are of some use, so any build would then be modified accordingly pending what situation(s) you are in, nature of enemies, etc. |
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Sep 29, 2005, 12:33 AM // 00:33
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Beaufort Fun Park
Guild: I don't remember the guild name
Profession: Mo/W
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I wouldn't do blood at all. Thats just my opinion. I started out with blood on my w/n until I realized how much it blew horribly.
When I finally came to my senses I switched to curse. Yes endure pain is useful, if someone disagrees taht is their opinion. Anyway here was my build to the best of my memory Wsword/Ncurse I don't remember my pools sorry I think it was all in sword tactics and curse Flurry (or frenzy) Mark of pain Distracting blow Savage Slash Thrill of Victory Parasitic Bond Endure Pain Healing Signet (I think, I think I swapped it out) Res Signet And this last spot was usually used for a random skill I wanted to try out. It always changed Anyway ya, not extremely buff. But if you have a brain, and you are capable of timing your attacks, you should be able to take out any caster in an extremely short amount of time. After that you can go after other mages or if their are none, sit back and guard a corpse throwing mark of pain at people. Oh yes I forgot mention what made this build work. My sword was the 20 dam +5 endurace and it had the +1 endurance to hit. So it basically went like this: Oh I see a caster... Parasitic Mark of pain Run in really faster and hit frenzy Totally mess the casters face up and everyone around him Savage slash and Distracting blow and spell he/she tries to do I think I usually brought sprint to chase them down Also the endure pain was for the aggro I would pull in arena once people saw I was dropping mages I like this build, if you don't then that's great. It's important to remember however in this build these things: You are not a tank You are not a damage dealer You are a distracter, you're main purpose in life is to keep the spell off the field All together you are pretty weak, so don't go taking on stupid W/Mos If you try this build remember all that Last edited by sybban; Sep 29, 2005 at 12:41 AM // 00:41.. |
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Sep 29, 2005, 02:10 AM // 02:10
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jun 2005
Guild: Looking For Guild
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Endure Pain is bad because it's just temporary health. When it ends, any damage that you took during the ten or so seconds is tranferred to your pre-endure pain health.
The build you posted has problems. You listed ten skills. Distracting Blow is not an actual skill. I assume you mean Disrupting Chop, which is still bad because it's an axe skill and you're using a sword. Mark of Pain is bad because anyone with a brain will just run away from the hexed guy or take it off. You have no speed buff, so I don't see how your going to "run in really faster". You have one conditional damage skill, that, without high sword and tactics, isn't all that great. Even with a +5 energy sword and zealous, you won't be running any of your energy skills, which is almost all the skills you listed, for very long. |
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Sep 29, 2005, 09:43 AM // 09:43
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Pre-Searing Cadet
Join Date: Sep 2005
Guild: The Swordsmen (SM)
Profession: W/R
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I agree with you in that Sybban's build would have serious energy problems, but I would like to point out that distracting blow is a skill and is even comparable to savage slash.
Sybban, you should switch thrill of victory with galrath slash, thus removing any need for tactics and alleviating some of the energy concerns. |
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Sep 29, 2005, 10:46 AM // 10:46
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Melbourne, Florida.
Guild: [HTR]
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Sep 29, 2005, 03:29 PM // 15:29
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Chicago, IL
Profession: W/N
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Wow, this poor W/N thread is being picked apart...
[cries for w/n ;_;] Anyways, one should look back at the basics that will make a W/N Swordsman work... Swords CAN use high energy skills and be dangerous when spammed: Pure Strike, Seeking Blade, Savage Slash, etc. Why? Flourish {E} However, in terms of elite efficiency and damage usage, the "standard" spike which is Sever, Gash, Galrath, Final Thrust must NEVER be discouraged in a sword build. Sure it won't match the Evis + Exe Strike of axe users, but it's damage isn't ignorable by any means, which means a sword using Duelist W/N should rely on a NECRO STYLE secondary! The necro secondary elites which come to mind would be either Life Transfer {E} or Virulence {E}. Why? Cause the necro curse elites are WAAYYY too pricey for a W/N's energy pool regardless of armor. Don't wear a focus, you look like a dork...  Should I want a high efficency sword damage Necro, I'd most definitely run with Virulence {E}. With or without a fragility mesmer on your team, the 10 degen you'll create will add on to the rather average dps a sword usually causes. What's more, it's 5 conditions on one hapless foe FORCING the enemy team to either do Martyr, Restore Condition, or Draw Conditions. They don't have this skill, they're guarunteed toast. No amount of mending spam will be worth it since his build can dump 5 long lasting conditions in a rather continuous cycle... My example: Swordsmanship: 12+1+3 Strength: 8+1 Death Magic: 10 Sever Artery Gash Galrath Slash Final Thrust Frenzy Sprint Plague Touch Virulence {E} This build is quite dangerous in that it ignores armor to a high degree. [10 dps for just 5 energy IS SEXCELLENT efficiency in my book] Frenzy/Sprint is a given, however, if you're trying something more consistent in landing hits vs. eating 2x dmg and worrying about sticking to your target, then ditching Sprint for Rush and then ditching Frenzy for either IWAY [which is kind of tricky] or Soul Feast/Consume Corpse when in CA or Necrotic Traversal in HoH, GvG, or TA... Hot stuff! |
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Sep 29, 2005, 03:37 PM // 15:37
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jun 2005
Guild: Looking For Guild
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